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Post by emmy Thu Nov 19, 2009 12:07 pm

so... after, like... 6 years? 7 years? i decided to finally get a linux distro on my pc again... which is cool.

except i didn't remember linux being so difficult last time i installed it... dang, java doesn't support ubuntu, the music player refuses to actually play music, the videoplayer... of course, refuses to play any videos, all asking for extra packages which i have to download, which i can't download because somehow, the idiots have omitted to add a download button, manually installing programs is impossible, the promised web-based wiki is actually nonexistant, and the irc support that was promised somewhere needs an extra package... and guess what?

gah. i clearly remember linux being a lot simpler back then... :'(

ahh welll... i'm downing fedora right now, the version i think i used to use back then, so that should work...
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Post by Kiyoshi Midnight Thu Nov 19, 2009 4:35 pm

Well, I hope you get it fixed. I hate it when I can't get the right downloads for firefox so something will work.. or when I do get the latest version, and something still doesn't work.
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Post by emmy Thu Nov 19, 2009 6:57 pm

meh, i hate the fact that it's almost incredible to get straightforward instructions to do things in linux. you have to search for hours just to find how to install a program.
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Post by JPB18 Thu Nov 19, 2009 7:53 pm

Yes, that's a small problem...

Anyway, what are the problems? I might try to explain to you...

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Post by JPB18 Thu Nov 19, 2009 7:56 pm

hmmmm...

about the music player, have you downloaded the Codecs? Cause linux only comes with Open Source codecs, because of the proprietary licences...

Go to the Synaptics installer and search for GStreamer packages...

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Post by emmy Fri Nov 20, 2009 6:45 am

yeah, i fixed the codecs issue, well except the wma one of course, and i think the cause i couldn't use packages the intended way was because of my lame internet connection

anyway, i'm trying to get empathy-idle to work, but every time i try to compile the stuff i get error codes. same goes for almost anything else i try to compile from tarballs.

i could post the code here if i reboot in ubuntu again (running windows atm to export FF settings)


hmmmh. you know, the wine filebrowser really sucks. i can't actually use my windows drives when using wine, thus destroying the whole point of wine in the first place.
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Post by JPB18 Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:21 am

Don't use wine if you have a windows sistem also installed... It looses it's utility there...

And replace the empathy with the pidgin... Pidgin is better...

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Post by JPB18 Sat Nov 21, 2009 12:32 pm

oh, and for install things you already know the name do:

"sudo apt-get install (name of the program)"

without the "", in the Bash (Command Console)...

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Post by darkjedi Sun Nov 22, 2009 11:00 pm

Yep, that's right JP.

Oh, and for newbs, I suggest Linux Mint.

It comes with most crap preinstalled so that you don't have to mess with it.

Plus, it has the software center app.
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Post by emmy Mon Nov 23, 2009 8:08 am

well, so has ubuntu.

anyway, i got it woirking now, except flash anyway. somehow i don't have mouse support and have to do everything by tab+space
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Post by darkjedi Mon Nov 23, 2009 1:21 pm

Ok, just get mint.

It's much easier to use.

(Give up now, before frustration corrupts your mind)
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Post by JPB18 Mon Nov 23, 2009 4:07 pm

DJ! Stop messing with peoples dark side!

Try Gnash SWF player or something... it worked with me...

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Post by JPB18 Mon Nov 23, 2009 4:08 pm

And for your mouse... It's a touchpad or a usb mouse?

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Post by darkjedi Mon Nov 23, 2009 4:29 pm

About the flash player....

Paste this into the terminal, and hit enter:

sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree

Then, type in your password.

Yea, you have flash.
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Post by emmy Mon Nov 23, 2009 9:00 pm

i have flash, it's just the problem that it ain't reacting to mouse controls on some flashies, and on others it does work. just adobe being too lame to actually make sure something works before they put it online, i guess...

ooh look! my network and torrents are actually working faster with linux... Very Happy


and i just fixed my wireless lan adabter all by myself...

Spoiler:
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Post by darkjedi Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:22 am

Yeah, flash is much glitchier in Linux.

Just adobe being gay.
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Post by emmy Tue Nov 24, 2009 5:02 am

darkjedi wrote:Yeah, flash is much glitchier in Linux.

Just adobe being gay.
QFT!
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Post by darkjedi Tue Nov 24, 2009 2:54 pm

LOL, yeah.

Hopefully, with the rise of Google's OS, Adobe will finally give into making things better for Linux.

Man, if they seriously jump into the linux world, we're going to see alot of people switching.
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Post by JPB18 Tue Nov 24, 2009 2:57 pm

Indeed... if Google makes the jump, we shall see many other informatic companies jump into Linux...

Thinking that everything started with Google support to Firefox... Makes me feel like the internet is a wonderfull thing...

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Post by darkjedi Tue Nov 24, 2009 3:08 pm

Yeah, but I don't think Google's OS is going to be an all out everyday use, do everything on it OS like ubuntu.

I think it will probably just be geared to netbooks mostly.

The whole cloud computing advancement thing is going to be interesting though.
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Post by JPB18 Tue Nov 24, 2009 3:12 pm

Well, it does have a small down side... if the internet is down, how would you do your work, without the apps? I think Google Chromium OS should have at least a way to work offline with it...

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Post by darkjedi Tue Nov 24, 2009 3:18 pm

Yeah, I know.

I hope they do something about that.

Well, they already have gears, that's a start.

Heck, I wonder how google wave is going to work out? I really want to see this new email approach.
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Post by JPB18 Tue Nov 24, 2009 3:21 pm

Yeah, me too...

But I'll always prefer fully functional OSes... They're always ready to do what we want...

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Post by darkjedi Tue Nov 24, 2009 3:27 pm

YES! This is why I will only run Google OS in a Virtual Box when I try it out.

Sorry google, the full scale distros are too good.
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Post by JPB18 Tue Nov 24, 2009 3:36 pm

Indeed... nice idea... I actually use some linux in VM, cause somehow dual-booting makes bad to my pc (or to my need to control myself from screweding up the PC's software Razz)...

And I'm a kid, so I need games to play on full speed (which wine sometimes can't do...), that's the only thing why I've 7 on my laptop...

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